Why did Jesus Christ pray to the Father when He was the God Himself?

      We can see Jesus praying to the Father, why does He have to pray if He is God Himself?

 

Matt 14.23

Standing in the position of man (Mat 4.4), the heavenly King, as the beloved Son of the Father (3.17) needed to pray privately to His Father who was in the heavens, that He might be one with the Father and have the Father with Him in whatever He did on the earth for establishing of the kingdom of the heavens.  He did this not in the deserted place but on the mountain, leaving all the people, even His disciples, that He might be alone to contact the Father. 

 

Mark 1.35

To fellowship with God, seeking God’s will and pleasure for His gospel service.  The Slave-Savior performed the evangelistic service not by Himself, independent of God and according to His own will, but according to God’s will and pleasure by being one with God to fulfill His purpose

 

Again in Matt 4, we see Jesus was led up into the wilderness by the Spirit to be tempted by the devil.  As the Son of God, Satan cannot stand against Him to challenge, but as the Son of man, The Lord Jesus intended to follow every human limitations to make His life, death and resurrection a successful mission.  In Matt 4.3, we read that the newly anointed King fasted in His humanity, standing on the ground of man.  On the other hand, He was also the Son of God as God the Father had declared at Christ’s baptism (3.17).  Thus under this criteria, He had to accomplish His ministry for the kingdom of the heavens.  He had to defeat God’s enemy, the devil, Satan as a man as He was the sacrificial Lamb of God for the redemption of Mankind.  Hence, He stood as the Son of man to confront the enemy of God.  The devil knowing this clearly tempted the Lord time and again to leave the standing of man and assume His position as the Son of God.  At the start of the forty days wilderness period, the subtle tempter took the declaration of God the Father that Jesus was His beloved Son to be the ground to tempt Him.  If Christ had assumed His position as the Son of God before the enemy, He would have lost the criteria to defeat Him and save His creation. 

 

Later we read that on many occasions, the evil spirits tried to expose the Lord as the Son of God.  However, Christ’s mission was to accomplish where the first Adam failed by becoming the Second Adam.  As the Second Adam, He submitted to every human limitation, endured trials, and prayed as a man on earth.  This also set a pattern for us today in our walk with God to be like Him. 

 

Summary

Jesus praying doesn’t diminish His glory, but as the incarnation of God on earth, His mission was to accomplish what we couldn’t due to the Law.  He stood on the grounds of human limitation and thus prayed within that limited premise to know the will of God the Father and go on with His mission.

Why Jesus cried out on the cross, 'Eli Eli lama sabachthani' if He is the Second Person of the Godhead?

In Mat 27.46 we read that Christ cried out in loud voice asking God why He had forsaken Him.  This verse is used by skeptics and cynics to present their case against the Triune God and that Jesus was not one with the Father.  These doubters would argue that if the Father and the Son are one, how could the Father forsake the Son? Is it really possible?  

Let us start with the fact that God forsook Christ on the cross and this forsaking is not exactly the abandonment of the Son but the people whom He had come to save because He replaces us the believers on the cross (1 Pet 3.18).  He bore oursins (1 Pet 2.24, Isa 53.6).  He was made sin for us(2 Cor 5.21).  Isa 53.6 says that our iniquities fell on Him.  1 Pet 2.24, says that He bore our sins in His body on the cross, in order we having died to sins, might live to righteousness by whose bruise we were healed.  1 Pet 3.18 says that ‘…..being put to death in the flesh, but on the other hand made alive in the Spirit.’  In 2 Cor 5.21 says, ‘–Him who did not know sin was made sin on our behalf that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.'

The above verses clearly indicate that though it was Christ on the cross, we the believers are actually crucified for our sins with Christ.  Now, Imagine if we were crucified for our sins without Christ's redemptive work, then God’s Holy nature will demand Him to abandon us because of our sins.  Unless and until we obtain forgiveness for our sins and sinful nature before our time comes to an end, we would never have an escape from our condemning crosses.  However, the Lord Jesus took our sins and was made sin for us on the cross.  Now, God’s abandonment of His Son was actually His abandonment of the creation that was under sin.  Simply put, the abandonment of the Father which Jesus suffered was in fact our abandonment, but Hallelujah for Christ who suffered on our behalf.  Isn’t this a mighty and a wonderful plan?  What a wisdom!  Hallelujah!  I have no words to praise our wonderful and great God.  

Next, if the Father and the Son were separate, then it would be sadistic for the Father to punish an innocent Person on our behalf.  However, the Father and the Son are one, so the Father suffered along with the Son on the cross.  This only states how infinitely loving our God is.  Hallelujah.  To understand this further, let us read an illustration.  Imagine your child is fast asleep on your shoulder in a church meeting.  Your arms are paining due to the weight of the child, but your love for the little one makes you ignore your paining arm and you will continue to hold your sleeping child carefully because of your love for him or her.  You just forsook your arm just to keep the child comfortable.  Similarly, the Lord Jesus as the arm of God was forsaken to suffer for us, so that we can be drawn back to the Father once and for all.  Hallelujah.  The fact that the Lord Jesus suffered even this abandonment gives credibility to our great God and how meticulous He is to satisfy His righteous requirement by receiving the perfect sacrifice of the Lamb of God.  Amen

Violence in Old Testament - Did God change in New Testament?

Violence in Old Testament
Bible Verses	Description of the context	God’s dealings
Gen 6.11	Earth was corrupt before God and filled with violence	Judgment by flood, corrupt killed
Gen 49.5	Simeon and levi.. weapons of violence are their swords	God judged their violence, cursed their anger, and received no blessings
Judges 9.24	In Jud 9.24, Abimelech killed his brothers 70 of them.	God warned them through Jotham and Abimelech three years after.  He was killed by a woman, (Jud 9.54). God repaid evil, brought all evil upon their own head
Deut 19.16	False witness rising against another	Repaid with same malicious intent.  Utterly remove evil from their midst
Deut 7.16, 7.24	Devour enemies without pity. Mighty kings will be delivered to be destroyed by Israel	Deut 7.6, sets a background for this.  God loved Israel very much.  Israel was His personal treasure.  There were oppressive kings like the pharaoh who God had and will destroy if they terrify God’s beloved Israel
Deut 20.10-18	Deut 20.11 – forcing them to serve you if they surrender. Deut 20.14- women and the little ones and the beasts as spoils, which God is giving. Deut 20.16-17 utterly destroy	>Though it seems these verses refer war mongering, it is not.  Deut 20.4 tells us that it was a defensive battle and, God will save them explains that the israelites were being threatened.  Later we see our great God instructing Israelites who had built new house, new vineyard or engaged to a woman or even who is afraid of the battle to return. >Battle with far off cities, only men engaged battle are to be killed, woman, children and all the beasts will be spoils of war. > But the Hittites and the amorites, the Canaanites and the perizzites , the hivites and the jebusites needs to be utterly destroy to avoid all possible corruptions due to their abomination which they practiced for their gods and thus sin against Jehovah.
Amos 1.3 – 2.3	Transgressions of different nations	God’s warning to the erring nation.  His proclamation about the seriousness of transgressions.  The violence and slayings was a choice of the nations if they continued in sin.
Gen 18-19	Brimstone and fire from heaven killing scores of people	The whole city was evil, they faced the judgment of God.  There is no looking back in longing for the sinful city which God hated due to the wickedness.  Judgment on Lot’s wife
Ex 32.27	Kill neighbors, brother, companions and there was mass murder by the levites	God was issuing something special on the mountain to Moses.  Within a span of few years, Israelites had witnessed God’s abundant love, providence, protection, miracles, His effort to establish them as a nation.  However, just few days, the nation made them an idol, the golden calf and worshipped it.  Again, there was a chance of repentance when Moses asked who is on the Lord’s side
Lev 17-26	Animal sacrifices, death punishments	This is the set standard of Jehovah.  Time and again, He instructs His people to be Holy, because He is Holy.  The entangling sin has spared none, thus the requirement of sacrifice is advocated.  Yet from the Bible we understand that there is no more animal sacrifices after the ultimate sacrifice which is Christ, the lamb of God.  In fact the Old Testament sacrifices all typifies the sacrifice of Christ.
Num 1	Military service for men	This does not indicate that our God is promoting violence.  This is what God wants His beloved Israel to do.  Since Israel is God’s beloved, Satanic and all dark forces will cause harm even to the last days.  God wants His people to be courageous and defend themselves as instructed.
Num 11	The fire of Jehovah burned and consumed people	This is in response to the murmur of the people who complained against God who loved them like a Father.
Num 15.32	Stoning for not observing Sabbath	God’s judgment to not honor His rest.  It was in His rest, that Adam was brought forth.  This rest was lost by them due to their sin.  Now the nation of Israel was commanded to honor after all that they have seen God do for them a day of His rest, which is the Sabbath.
Num 16	Korah and all their possessions were destroyed Fire came down and consumed 250 of the Israelites leaders	Korah had rebelled, didn’t honor God’s commission.  They caused tension and rifts among people.  Korah’s dishonored their levite status and they rebelled against God and thus faced judgment.
Num 25	Moses commanding the Judges of Israel to slay his men	Among all the sins that the Israelites have done, idolatry is the most grievous thing before God.  Repeatedly, the people have witnessed great punishment for worship idols and bowing to other gods.  This is a personal attack on God by the devil.
Num 31	Vengeance on Midianites Killing of all male children and young and women who are not virgin	Midianites was corrupted race.  (Read who are the Midianites).  They had a clear knowledge that the Israel was blessed by God, yet they persevered to harass them.  Midianites were a culture of utterly disgusting lustful people.  The women except for virgins were lustful fleshly people had the danger of fornication and spreading the Midianite deception among the people of Israelites.  The young male children can never be considered an Israelite by natural means and can cause divisions and strife in the future.  However, this was not the commandment of Jehovah.  This was told by Moses on his own volition.  Whether it is approved by Jehovah or not is unknown.
Numbers 33	Driving out the inhabitants of Canaan	Israelites were about to possess the good land, but they had to drive out the previous inhabitants, their idols first.  This was the judgment of God over the wicked Canaanites and a lesson for Israelites about what God disliked like idol worshipping, the paganic way of life etc.
Deut 13.15	Slay the inhabitants of that city with the edge of sword	This again a judgment of God over the people leading His beloved Israel astray.  If we read the previous verse we understand that these inhabitants are worthless men who have gone out from your midst and have forced the people to serve other gods.
Jud 3.12	Violence intended by God against Israel	Israel did evil in the eyes of God.  The children of Israel served Eglon the king of Moab for 18 years. Note that Moabs were a disgusting race in the eyes of God.
1 Sam 6.19	Jehovah struck the men for looking at the Ark of Jehovah..He struck 70 men among the people	The Ark contains the law, God’s testimony.  It is an unchangeable standard of God.  God is Holiness is perfect and eternal.  His commands are serious and non negotiable.  People looking at the Ark falling to die is divine judgment of God falling in the hands of God without any offering with their wickedness.  People who are glancing casually at the Ark without reverence suffered huge losses.  It was as if looking into the heart of the Lord casually.  This was serious.  It was like you got caught in a furnace without shield.
1 Sam 15.2	Strike Amalekites and utterly destroy them	Amalakites signify flesh – the fallen man.  We have thus far seen God’s relentless effort to preserve His people, His personal treasure.  Here too it continues, God put Saul to destroy the fleshly amalakites.  All their properties, their sheeps, oxen were an abomination to God.  They were brought forth in Sin and by sinful men.  That’s why God want utter destruction of the tribes who harass Israel with its harlotry and idols.
2 Kin 1.10	Elijah commanded fire from heaven which consumed 100 of the Moabites	First of all the Moabs had a life long history of rebellion against God.  The very beginning of Moab (Gen 19.33-37) was an abomination to God.  However, here Elijah was sent to warn the latest rebellion of Moab against Israel.  Ahaziah fell sick, he sought, the lord of the flies, Beelzebul, who was a god of the demon.  This enraged God, who sent a warning to Ahaziah through his men.  Subsequently, the soldiers of Ahaziah dealt casually, puffed with their ego, forgetting how to address the concern of God, suffered judgment of God.
2 Kin 5.27	Leprosy of Namaan transferred to Gehazi	While Namaan honored God of Israel after the miraculous healing, Elisha refused to accept anything in return most probably to retain the gratefulness in Namaan’s heart or maybe to avoid undermining the healing of the leprosy, but Gehazi dealt unwisely, selfishly, undermined the work of God with a life.  God judged Gehazi for his wickedness.
2 Kin 2.23	Elisha cursed 42 little boys in the name of Jehovah who were then devoured by two female bears.	Not much is revealed here, except how much God values His Prophets and their works.  42 little boys, does not mean very small boys, in fact they could be violent teen age boys.  Their intention of choosing Elisha and mocking him is unknown.  They belittled the Prophet of God and how serious was it in the eyes of God is in the passage.  Whatever the reason, 2 female bears came from the woods and devoured the boys.
Psalms 137	Violence against little ones of Babylon	This is the psalmists own intentions.  God is not in picture here to understand whether he approved it or not.  This was a curse proclaimed against Babylon and the daughters of Babylon who rebelled against God.  We the New Testament believers are not told to curse others but to bless our oppressors.

Now when we read the New Testament, there is absolutely no bloodshed or harm commanded by the Lord God against any tribes or nations or even individuals due to their unbelief, sins disobedience or rebellions.  On the contrary, we understand that the Lord Jesus asking His followers not to retaliate, curse or harm others, even if they were on the receiving end and suffer willingly.  When Christ gave this new outlook to his followers, it was new and spiritually very superior.  Now, we come to the question, whether God of the Old Testament, Father of the Lord Jesus, made a mistake in slaughtering the people rebelled, sinned etc?  or Did God change in the New Testament?  The answer is 'No' to both the questions.  When we analyze the above verses in the table, we notice without ambiguity the perfect and uncompromising standard of God.  He considered Israel His precious treasure, His child.  With this standard of pure love, God demanded a perfect loyalty from Israel which they failed to render many times when they engaged with the enemies of God and worked against Him.  The God of the Old Testament was a Triune God but was not consummated Christ's birth, death, resurrection and ascension.  Before Christ, He didn’t have scope to overlook people’s rebellions and sin while keeping His perfect nature which included perfect righteousness, perfect mercy and perfect love intact.  No wicked deed will go unpunished without giving an account for to satisfy the perfect righteous nature of God Almighty.  In the New Testament, our God is the same perfect, strict and uncompromising God, but He was in a position to forgive the sins of the people in the name of the Son’s sacrifice without compromising His highest standard of righteousness. 

Summary.  Our God is the same perfect, righteous Father today as He was in the Old Testament.  He never makes error as He is the perfect Creator.  In the New Testament, through the sacrifice of Lord Jesus, He have acquired for Himself a scope of forgiving the sins of His people whey they repented and confessed their shortcomings to Him through the blood of Christ for salvation.   Hallelujah 

Why did God allow the serpent to deceive Adam and Eve?

      Why did God allow the serpent to deceive Adam and Eve?

God decided to create man and woman in His own image (Gen 1.26).  The purpose of God's creation is to produce the New Jerusalem (Rev 21.2).  Whatever project one undertakes, the end achievement or result is the goal or objective.  The goal of the Lord God, our Triune God’s whole deal about creating humanity is to produce the New Jerusalem which is the bride of God.  The New Jerusalem which constitutes the redeemed, glorified church after the millennial kingdom will be God's partner for eternity.  Hallelujah.  Glorified church is a corporate entity of human beings who with their freewill chose to obey the Lord God, no matter the cost while they were on earth.  These people upheld their testimony and have denied their soul life even unto death.  Their testimonies and their precious lives are the stones on which the Lord Jesus is building His church .  For these testimonies to be perfect and acceptable by God, it need to be without coercing and follow the Lord willingly.  In order to achieve that, the Lord has to show His creation what is evil, since He is good and all that belongs to Him is Holy.  The serpent as an incarnation of Satan introduced a never before entity into the creation, sin.  Eve’s disobedience led to Adam’s fall which gave birth to mankind’s first sin.  Subsequently, man continued to fall from one level to another.  God intervened during man's every fall and judged them accordingly.  At the same time, He set aside for Himself a group of people who would remain faithful to Him.  During the Old Testament time, God gave His people hope and promised a future messiah who will redeem them and save them from their sins.  God’s chosen ones in every age before Christ had faith in Him and the One who was to come.  They were encouraged through the prophecies of the coming Messiah and dispensation of God’s infinite love through Him.  Before Christ, people were battered by the law which induced fear of death, condemnation and slavery until the Word became flesh and dwelt among men.  Lord Jesus as the Lamb of God fulfilled the law through His perfect life, death and resurrection.  As the second Adam, He abolished death and ushered in abundant grace.  Through His great work, a new glorious entity was born out which is the church.  The church as the body of Christ on earth today functions according to God’s will.  God can move and accomplish things on earth through this body.  Secondly, church is the foretaste of the coming God's kingdom.  The church over the course of time will transform mostly through tribulations into the New Jerusalem.  This perfect New creation is possible indirectly through the participation of the devil.  In a negative way, Satan is contributing to the building of the church thought he thinks he is destroying it.  Through the satanic evilness in the world, we can know what God is not, what He hates.  When we choose God over the trampled and crushed serpent we will be the goal of God's creation, the New Jerusalem.    Amen.

Need for Christ's Crucifixion?

          Why was their the need for Christ’s crucifixion when God can forgive the sins of the people from His throne itself?

a)      God is an all powerful, infinite Being perfect in everything and there is none like Him.  All the positive things that we can think about, God possesses that attribute in perfection.  For example, let us consider love; everybody loves, but God’s love is perfect and infinite.  Among all the attributes of a divine Being, love, mercy and righteousness are three major attributes in my understanding.  If God can forgive any sins of men, then he is infinitely merciful, but if the sins are not dealt with justice or compensated, then though God is merciful, He is compromising with His perfect righteousness.  For a just and perfect God, He cannot forgive sins and overlook it by simply commanding it from His throne in heaven.  Having said that we know that our God is an infinitely loving Being.  In the Old Testament, we can see time and again, that our God is rigid against sins like disobedience, idol worship etc.  He is uncompromising and deals harshly with people who have sinned.  He simply cannot overlook the sins, because of His perfect nature.  Christ’s life, death and resurrection are crucial steps for our God to be perfect in all aspects.  With the crucifixion of the Son, God can love and show mercy to sinners without compromising His perfect righteousness, because every sin was paid by the blood of the Lamb.  God can now be merciful and at same time uphold His perfect righteousness.  The fact that our God came in the flesh, lowered Himself to our level and suffered and later rose again, shows us His perfect love for His creation.  Thus Christ’s crucifixion is also a requirement of our infinitely righteous, infinitely merciful and infinitely loving God to deal with His creation.

b)      We understand from the Bible, the Second Person of the Trinity, our Lord Jesus Christ was from the beginning (John 1.1).  However, He took on flesh and manifested to us in the old creation as the Second Adam.  In His resurrection, He became the firstborn Son, which means there will be many more sons to follow Him.  Hallelujah.  This happened after His resurrection.  Now, we in this age needs to be in the resurrected Christ to become the brothers of Christ.  This corporate entity will culminate into the final glorious New Jerusalem (Rev 21.2) which will be the bride of Christ.  The whole point of the Lord’s life and death is to produce the New entity the church which will issue in the New Jerusalem, which will be the partner of the Lord for eternity.  Again, we can see that the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ is accomplishing this.  Hallelujah to the wisdom of the Lord.

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Triune God - Three Essence - One God

      What do you mean by a Triune God?  How does the three, the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit exist as One being?

Honestly, Trinity is a mystery and the Almighty God has to speak to us regarding this mystery to each one of us separately as per own faith structure.  However, this is one of the basic knowledge area, yet most important as a Christian.  We can understand this mystery to a reasonable extent from whatever is revealed to us in the Bible .  Who is our God?  How is He like?  What should we know about Him according to the revelations in the Bible?  Do we know Him as we ought to or are we deceived by the twisting traditions of Christianity that might makes us ignorantly a Tritheist or an heretic by accident?  Let us look at what the Bible has to say about these matters.  

A short prayer before we commence:- 

O Lord, our heavenly Father, I pray in the name of our Lord Jesus to grant us wisdom to understand You in the manner how You want us to understand.  Lord, we thank You for the Bible and its life dispensing words.  May the Spirit enlighten us and help that these seeds would grow to bring forth abundant fruit for You.  Thank You so much.  Amen

  

Psalms 86.10 says, ‘… You alone are God.’  God is one and we worship Him.  We are not polytheists to worship three separate gods.  Isaiah 45.5 says that our God is Jehovah and there is no one else beside Him (Eph 4.6, 1 Tim 2.5, 1 Cor 8.4)

Now, let us who our God is.  In Gen 1.26, we see God referring to Himself as 'Us', 'Our image'.  The pronoun 'Us' and then God being one simultaneously means He is a Triune God.  Triune means three substance or essence in One being.  At this juncture, we need to confess that we are little men who can never understand the Creator with ease.  Trinity is a mystery and we can only rely upon what the Bible has to say about our Triune God and understand to an extent of how much ever has been revealed to us.  In Isaiah 6.8, God uses ‘I’ and ‘Us’ to address Himself and similarly in Gen 3.22 and in Gen 11.7.  Hence, we see that this one God has three substance or essence in the Godhead.

 

In John 14.23 and 17.11 we see that the Father and the Son are one and existing at the same time.  Further in Mat 28.19 we understand that the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit has one name.  The verse doesn't say 'in the names of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit', but 'in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit'.  This means that the three have one name and they exist as one. How the functionality of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit is experienced by us can be understood from the words of Andrew Murray, ‘In the Father we have the unseen God, the Author of all.  In the Son of God revealed, made manifest, and brought nigh; He is the Form of God.  In the Spirit of God we have the indwelling God: the Power of God dwelling in human body and working in it what the Father and the Son have for us…. What the Father has purposed, and the Son has procured, can be appropriated and take effect in the body of Christ only through the continual intervention and active operation of the Holy Spirit.’

Now let us delve further. 

All three are God

The Father is God (1 Pet 1.2, Eph 1.17).  The Son is God (Heb 1.8, Joh 1.1, Rom 9.5).  The Spirit is God (Acts 5.3-4). 

All three are eternal

The Father is eternal (Isa 9.6).  The Son is eternal (Heb 1.12).  The Spirit is eternal (Heb 9.14). 

All three are exiting at the same time

In Joh 14.16-17, we see that our Lord is promising us a Comforter, who is the Spirit of reality, by asking the Father.  Again, in Eph 3.14-17, Apostle Paul is saying that he is bowing his knees unto the Father…. To be strengthened by the Power of His Spirit into the inner man…. That Christ may make His home in our hearts.  Similarly, in 1 Cor 12.4-6 also we can clearly affirm that the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are existing at the same time. Many Christians have no problem understanding until this point.

Now let us read further, 

Son is the Father; Father and Son are one.  In Isa 9.6, we understand that the Son, undoubtedly the Lord Jesus Christ, is the Mighty God, Eternal Father.  Here the Son is the Father and He is the Mighty God.  In John 10.30, 14.8-14, we read that the Father and the Son are one. 

Next, in 1 Cor 15.45, 2 Cor 3.17, we understand that the Lord Jesus is the Spirit.  He is the life giving Spirit and we enjoy freedom in the Spirit.

All three are in us

Eph 4.6, says that the Father is in us. In John 14.20, Col 1.27, 2 Cor 13.5, we read that the Lord is in us.   Then John 14.17 says, that the Spirit of reality shall be in you and thus the Spirit is in us. 

Hence, at the point the Trinity becomes a mystery.  In John 1.1 we see that the Word of God who is Jesus, was from the beginning; He was with God and He was God.  The Lord Jesus is the Spirit (2 Cor 3.17).  Heb 1.8-9, the Son is addressed as God, then God is referred to as His God.  This is why it is mystery.  In Rev 1.4, 4.5 and 5.6, we the one Spirit is called the seven Spirits.  Thus this mysterious Triune God is not for a terminology or for teaching, but for our experience and enjoyment. 

In Mat 3.16-17, we understand co-inherence and co-existence of Father, Son and the Holy Spirit in the Godhead.  In Rev 1.4-5 & Eph 3.14-17, we further confirm this co-inherence and co-existence. 

In the simplest words, the Triune God can be understood by the burning lamp.  The oil, the lamp and the light that it shines forth cannot be separated.  The Father as the source of all is like the oil, the Son is the burning lamp, the expression of the unseen God.  The light travels from the lamp, not visible to our eyes, but when it falls on things, it exposes, it reveals this unseen light cast forth from the lamp is the Holy Spirit.  The Father is formless, limitless, infinite Spirit, the source of all.  His expression, or the form is the Son and the power of God that is from the Son which convicts, exposes, reveals things in the world is the Holy Spirit.  Amen

Summary

We see Jesus as the Father in Isa 9.6, Father and the Son as One, the Son and the Spirit are one.  All the three are One.  In the Godhead, we have the Father, Son and the Spirit and they dwell as one Being in us today.  To say that the Lord Jesus as an eternal Father is distinct from the Father is saying that we have two Fathers.  This is heretical.  Apart from this if the three essence are considered to be distinct and somehow, the traditions portrays that the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit cannot be the other essence to be experienced by us, then we fall in the danger of becoming a tritheist meaning we believe in three gods which is again heretical.  In simple words, Father is the Son, the Son is Father; the Son is the Spirit, the Spirit is the Father and the Father is the Spirit all at the same time as one Being is our Triune God.  Amen